Odyssey of Y Act 9

My working hypothesis is that the yDNA lineage L-SK1414 > FGC51040 > FGC51036 first reached Hampshire soil via a Levantine mariner serving aboard a Venetian galley. While he could have absconded upon reaching Southampton, I suspect a different path: a brief encounter with a local Hampshire woman before he returned to the sea.

This 'dalliance' provides a more plausible explanation for how this specific DNA entered the regional gene pool during the transition from the late medieval period to the Tudor era. Naturally, much of this paternal odyssey remains rooted in conjecture. To bridge the gaps in the historical record, I have used Gemini AI to imagine the meeting between this distant ancestor and my 15th century great-grandmother in the bustling port of Southampton.

The Southampton priest appears disgruntled at the prospect of baptizing a child born out of wedlock, doesn’t he? Yet, I’ve directed Gemini AI to capture the mother’s joy—portraying her as an innocent soul, undeterred by the cleric's disapproval.

Perhaps I have let my imagination run a step ahead of the records, but the narrative is tempting. Forty years after that first arrival, I imagine the mariner’s son defying the period’s inherent prejudices to rise to the rank of a wool merchant. The lifeblood of Southampton was the highly valued wool of the surrounding counties, which acted as a magnet for foreign fleets. In this scene, I have asked Gemini AI to portray my ancestor as an entrepreneur, visiting the wool hall in Basingstoke.

There is a firm rationale for this setting. If my paternal lineage arrived in the late medieval or early Tudor era at Southampton, the line clearly drifted northward toward the Berkshire and Hampshire Downs. Basingstoke is the earliest known residence of the Chandler family, with whom I share a specific yDNA signature.

A comparison of my STR (Short Tandem Repeat) markers against the Basingstoke Chandlers suggests the following TMRCA (Time to Most Recent Common Ancestor):

Probability Estimated Generations Estimated Years Before Present
50% (Median) ~14–16 Generations 420–480 Years
95% (Confidence) 4–35 Generations 120–1,050 Years

Historical Correlation:

Assuming a standard genealogical generation of 30 years, this 14–16 generation gap places our common ancestor between 1540 and 1600 CE.

I recognize the hurdles of such a rapid ascent in 1540. The era was fraught with xenophobia and a profound suspicion of those with Mediterranean features or Catholic leanings. While the dating range is flexible—the DNA may have arrived earlier, taking several generations to migrate toward the Downs—I am using a degree of 'informed conjecture' to frame my AI-generated imagery. I believe the science of STR matching is most powerful when paired with a narrative. This is not just a data point; it is a 'could have been' for how my lineage took root in English soil.

Act 9 of the Odyssey: My yDNA has traversed the millennia—moving from an Ice Age ibex-hunter in the Zagros Mountains to a Proto-Neolithic goat herder, then onward through a priest-diviner on the Khorasan Highway. It has lived as a Bronze Age smith visiting the Great Sumerian civilizations, a Hurrian merchant reaching the Levant, and a temple accountant in Roman Phoenicia, before finally arriving as a mariner in Tudor England.

Odyssey of Y Act 8

If a man of my Asian paternal lineage was a mariner in the Venetian service in the late 1490s (Venetian sailors were often actually recruited from the Republic's colonies in the Levant or the Adriatic), his journey from the Levant to England would have been a two-stage odyssey. After serving on a Galea di Beirut to reach the Rialto, he would have transferred to the prestigious Galee di Fiandra (Flanders Galleys) for the trek to Southampton. This journey represented the pinnacle of medieval maritime logistics—a state-regulated convoy that connected the silk and spice hubs of the East to the wool markets of the North.

Source ©  OpenStreetMaps Modified by myself.

1. The Fleet: The "Great Galley" (Galea Grossa)

The mariner did not cross the seas in a small rowboat. He served aboard the Galea Grossa, the "jumbo jet" of the 15th century. These massive merchant vessels, roughly 40–50 meters in length, were the only ships legally permitted to carry the most precious "light goods"—spices, silks, and dyes—from the Levant to the North.

  • The Crew: A single galley carried approximately 200 oarsmen. In the 1490s, they employed the alla sensile method: three men shared a single bench, but each pulled his own individual oar. This required a rhythmic, highly skilled labor that took years of practice to master without tangling.

  • The Hybrid Power: These ships were marvels of engineering. While they utilized three massive lateen sails for the open sea, they relied on the raw power of the oarsmen for maneuvering in tight ports, navigating narrow channels, or escaping pirates during a dead calm.

2. The Route: The "Muda" System

The journey was a state-regulated convoy system known as the Muda. It was not a direct shot but a series of calculated "hops" across the known world.

Phase 1: The Levant to Venice

The first leg was a voyage from the ports of the Levant (such as Beirut) to the heart of the Republic.

  • The Hub: The Piazzetta in Venice served as the mandatory layover. The mariner wouldn't just stay on the ship; he would live in the city for weeks or months, exchanging Syrian dirhams for Venetian ducats.

  • The Arsenal: These vessels were not private property; the Galea Grossa was a state-owned vessel built in the Arsenal—the world's first industrial factory. The Republic built them, and wealthy merchants merely rented them for the voyage.

Phase 2: Venice to the Atlantic

Once refitted, the "Flanders Convoy" began the long trek west.

  • The "Stop-and-Shop": The fleet stopped at Malaga on the Spanish leg to take on "fruits of the sun"—raisins and almonds—which were highly prized luxuries in England.

  • The Bay of Biscay: This was the most feared stretch of the journey. Because the galleys were low-slung, they were at constant risk of being swamped by massive Atlantic "rollers." During these storms, the oarsmen usually huddled below deck or assisted with the sails, praying for the safety of the hull.

Phase 3: The Arrival in Southampton

  • The Galley Quay: Upon reaching England, the fleet docked at Southampton’s West Quay. The medieval walls that stand today are the same stones these men walked past as they sought out local taverns and markets.

  • The Return: The journey was a circle. The return trip was just as vital, as the mariners loaded heavy sacks of English wool and "cloth of tin" to carry back to the looms and markets of the Mediterranean.

3. Life as a "Merchant-Oarsman"

If an ancestor was on the bench in 1498, his life was a unique blend of grueling labor and entrepreneurial opportunity.

  • The Portata: Unlike the galley slaves of later centuries, these were free men. A unique Venetian tradition allowed sailors to carry a small amount of their own cargo tax-free, known as the portata. An oarsman could tuck a bundle of silk or a bag of saffron under his bench to trade privately in Southampton, potentially earning more from this "luggage allowance" than from his actual wages.

  • Social Mixing: By law, every galley carried a contingent of noble youth serving as crossbowmen (balestrieri). A common mariner would have worked and lived alongside these young Venetian aristocrats as they learned the family trade.

  • The Turning Point: The year 1498 was a tipping point in history. While the mariner kept a sharp eye out for rival Genoese privateers, the world was changing. This was the last generation to enjoy the Venetian monopoly on spices; the first Portuguese voyages to India were already underway, and the center of gravity for global trade was about to shift forever from the Mediterranean to the Atlantic.

Arrival at Southampton? Visualised by Google Gemini AI.

In 1498, life on the bench was a calculation of risk. Between the freezing spray of the Atlantic and the constant shadow of North African corsairs, a mariner was more than a labourer—he was a stakeholder. By tucking a bundle of Lebanese saffron or Syrian silk beneath his rowing bench, he became a micro-merchant on the longest trade route of the known world. He was the vital link between the spice markets of the Levant and the damp, wool-rich ports of the North.

When the fleet finally dropped anchor in Southampton Water, usually near the West Quay or God’s House Gate, the mariner stepped into a rain-slicked frontier of the Venetian commercial empire. For sixty days, he lived a double life. By day, he was a beast of burden, hauling heavy wool-sacks onto the deep-hulled Galea Grossa. By night, protected by royal patents that exempted 'Men of the Galleys' from local xenophobia, he moved through the town as a man of status.

While the elite Venetian 'factors' (agents) conducted business in grand stone houses like Duke’s Lease, the oarsmen drifted toward the smoky, semi-legal world of the waterfront alehouses. Here, his Mediterranean tan and stories of the brewing Ottoman wars were exotic currency. In these taverns, he traded silk ribbons and news for English silver and local companionship.

He was a literal 'man of the world' in a town where most residents never traveled twenty miles from home. In the shadows of the West Quay—far from the watchful eyes of the fleet’s Capitanio—he found the privacy and the people that allowed him to leave a biological stowaway behind. When the trumpets finally sounded for the fleet’s departure, he sailed with the tide, but his genetic signature remained anchored in the soil of Hampshire.

Discussion: The Southampton Hypothesis for L-FGC51036

This study proposes a potential migratory path for the yDNA haplogroup L-FGC51036 (L-SK1414 > FGC51040) to Southern England. Currently, this rare lineage has been identified in only two European surname families, both clustered within the Berkshire and Hampshire regions. By the 18th century, these lines remained highly localized, situated within just 32 miles of one another.

Analysis of Short Tandem Repeat (STR) variants suggests these families shared a common paternal ancestor approximately 400 to 650 years ago. This raises a critical question: when did this shared paternal line arrive in Britain? Traditional theories for Levantine DNA in Britain typically include:

  1. Romano-British Arrival: Often attributed to Syrian or Greek auxiliary units stationed in Roman Britannia.

  2. Medieval Anglo-Jewry: Arrival with Jewish communities following the Norman Conquest.

  3. The Crusades: Return of English knights with Levantine followers or the movement of Eastern Christians.

However, the evidence suggests a more recent arrival. First, the lineage is too rare and geographically restricted to have been circulating in Britain for nearly two millennia; a Roman-era arrival would likely have resulted in wider dispersal and a greater variety of surnames. Second, L-FGC51036 has not been identified in Sephardic or Ashkenazi datasets, making a link to medieval Jewish migrations unlikely.

The heavy concentration of this lineage near the South Coast strongly suggests an entry via the Port of Southampton. A late medieval or early Tudor arrival (circa 1450–1530) matches the genetic data perfectly. During this window, Southampton served as the primary English terminus for the Venetian "Flanders Galleys" and various Mediterranean carracks. The presence of Levantine sailors and "merchant-oarsmen" aboard these vessels—men who lived and traded in Southampton for months at a time—presents a highly attractive and historically grounded hypothesis for the arrival of this genetic signature.

The Ultimate Ancestor.


When I envisaged this post last night, I was simply going to make it an easy, simple little table of the L haplogroup variants on my Y Chromosome. I had a few problems with that, and therefore consulted for a while with Google Gemini AI. Before I knew it, my post grew and grew. I know that I have a particular kind of mind. One that hyper-focuses, sees patterns in data, and buries itself into whatever science, history, or nature that currently catches my attention. As this blog is intended only for me to enjoy making my observations, I shouldn't be apologizing.

Gemini helped me a little with organising the dating, and contexts of the yDNA. When I was happy with it, I then felt that the beginning of the story was far older than yDNA Adam, and therefore I asked it to add some information on earlier human evolution. But then that wasn't enough, because humans are only the recent end of just one lineage of life, so I asked it to add the story of Life on Earth. But then I knew that wasn't enough. You see, we are star dust. We see ourselves as selves. As individuals that matter the most. We make our own ego. Yet all life is entwined, and interdependent. Every several years, every cell in our body is replaced. Even as an individual I am no more than a chain of events, a process rather than a thing. A small percentage of my bodyweight isn't even the same species - it belongs to countless micro-organisms of a biome. We are also a lichen,

We interbeing not only with life, but with the universe. The matter in the fingers that punch this keyboard have been a part of other lifeforms before me. My existence has consequence for everything. Enough of the profound thoughts, let me get this list of my process down.

​The Dawn of the Y Chromosome

  • ​Age: c. 180 Million Years Ago

  • ​Context: A normal chromosome in early mammals mutates to hold the SRY gene, creating the very first Y chromosome and starting the paternal line we track today.

​The "Y-Chromosomal Adam" (Root of all Y-DNA)

  • ​Age: c. 230,000 to 270,000 Years Ago

​Context: This is the theoretical single male in Africa who passed down the Y-chromosome that all living men carry today.

yDNA Variants

​A01

  • ​Age: 125,500 YBP (c. 123,550 BCE)

  • ​Context: Africa. The root of all human paternal lines.

​F

  • ​Age: 42,500 YBP (c. 40,550 BCE)

  • ​Context: Southwest Asia. Parent of most non-African lines.

​LT

  • ​Age: 37,050 YBP (c. 35,100 BCE)

  • ​Context: West Asia. Paleolithic hunter-gatherers.

​L / M20

  • ​Age: 20,100 YBP (18,150 BCE)

  • ​Context: Caucasus to Iranian Plateau. In Ice Age refuges of West Asia. The birth of the L super-clade. LGM Ice Age Hunter-gatherers.

​M317

  • ​Age: 11,050 YBP (9,100 BCE)

  • ​Context: Eastern Fertile Crescent. Controlling wild herds of ibex, mouflon. Gathering wild cereals.

​SK1412

  • ​Age: 10,050 YBP (8,050 BCE)

  • ​Context: Zagros (Iran) foothills and valleys. Early Neolithic Farmer population herding and cultivating cereals.

​FGC51074 / SK1414

  • ​Age: 7,800 YBP (5,880 BCE)

  • ​Context: Branching out to Anatolia, Caucasus, Near East, Iranian Plain, Gedrosia, and Indus Valley, but my specific line possibly remained in the Zagros region.

​FGC51041

  • ​Age: 7,130 YBP (5,180 BCE)

  • ​Context: Early Copper Age expansion. If still in Zagros region, likely in contact with Elamite, Indus Valley, and Sumerian civilizations. Exploiting soils of floodplains for agriculture 

​FGC51040

  • ​Age: 6,000 YBP (4,050 BCE)

  • ​Context: West Asia. Continued Copper Age movements. Possible link to Assyrians, Hurrians and Mittani dispersals.

​FGC51036

  • ​Age: 3,130 YBP (c. 1,180 BCE)

  • ​Context: End of Bronze Age. Anatolia, Levant or Mediterranean. Greek world?

​Arrival in England

  • ​Age: 600 YBP (c. 1350–1400 CE)

  • ​Context: Late Medieval period; potential entry into Britain. Most likely through the port of Southampton. Suspect Genoese or Venetian galleys. My yDNA ancestor may have been recruited as a crewman from the Levant.

​Brooker / Chandler split

  • ​Age: 400 YBP (c. 1550–1600 CE)

  • ​Context: England. Tudor era. Surnames become solidly fixed. Suspect that the surname split between Chandler and Brooker occurred around the area of Basingstoke, Sherfield Upon Loddon, or Kingsclere in Hampshire, England.

​Recorded genealogy

  • ​Age: 277 years ago (1749 CE)

  • ​Context: Clear paper records begin. My 6x great-grandfather, John Brooker, married Ann Gardiner at Oxford College while residing at Long Wittenham, Berkshire, England. Copyhold farmer on open fields held by St Johns college, Oxford.

​Relocation to Oxfordshire

  • ​Age: 211 years ago (1815 CE)

  • ​Context: My 4x great-grandfather John Brooker takes the yDNA from Long Wittenham to the Rotherfield Peppard, Shiplake, Harpsden, and Henley areas of Oxfordshire. Agricultural labourer.

​Relocation to London

  • ​Age: 144 years ago (1883 CE)

  • ​Context: My 2x great-grandfather Henry Brooker takes the yDNA from Harpsden, Oxfordshire to Fulham, Bethnal Green, Deptford, and then Lewisham, London. Cart driver.

​Relocation to Norfolk

  • ​Age: 120 years ago (1906 CE)

  • ​Context: The yDNA is taken to Norfolk with my grandfather Reginald John Brooker. Labourer.

​My Birth

  • ​Age: 60+ years ago

  • ​Context: I am born.

​The DNA Test

  • ​Age: 10 years ago (2016 CE)

  • ​Context: I took a DNA test and discovered my terminal yDNA branch was L-FGC51036, linking our personal story back through the thousands of generations listed above!

Y Haplogroup L Resource page

Distribution Haplogroup L Y-DNA

By Crates (Own work) [GFDL (http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/fdl.html) or CC BY-SA 4.0-3.0-2.5-2.0-1.0 (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0-3.0-2.5-2.0-1.0)], via Wikimedia Commons.  Unmodified.

Introduction - Y-DNA, Haplogroups, SNPs, Haplotypes

The Y chromosome, and it's Y-DNA, are copied from father to son, down a strictly paternal lineage.  If I were to trace my entire direct ancestry back, I have two parents, four grandparents, eight great grandparents, sixteen great great grandparents.  Yet out of those sixteen great great grandparents (generation 5), who were born only circa 160 years ago, only one carried the Y-DNA that was passed down to me.  My eight great great grandmothers did not not inherit a Y chromosome from their fathers.  Most likely, my other seven great great grandfathers, carried distinctive differently marked Y-DNA.  Yet all sixteen biological great great grandparents have contributed to my overall atDNA (autosomal DNA).  Only one gave me my Y-DNA.  So you can see that Y-DNA represents only one narrow lineage.

Y-DNA, may on the face of it, appear to offer a limited understanding of total biological ancestry.  All sixteen of my great great grandparents were direct ancestors, not just the Y great great grandfather.  However, this lineage offers us evidence that can be genetically tracked, then mapped into relationship.  It could be done to ascertain parental, or non parental events.  It can be used to check the biological validity of relationship to cousins.  As more people investigate and record their haplogroups, haplotypes, STR markers, and SNPs, so we can for example, start to use them to map biological relationship further back.  Y-DNA is particularly useful, not only because of it's markers, but also because it can be plotted to surname studies.  In Western societies, the surname often follows the Y lineage for several generations.

However, Y-DNA (nor the maternal mtDNA) evidence doesn't just stop there.  As more people investigate, submit, and record their data from around the World - and as anthropologists and archaeologists add ancient DNA data from ancient and provenanced human remains to that record, so we can build and plot a world map of the human family, how it relates, how it was distributed globally throughout prehistory.

Both Y and mt DNA carries mutation markers, that define a HaplogroupA haplogroup is a family of shared descent.  These haplogroups are ancient.  The paternal Y-DNA haplogroup that this resource page is dedicated to has been designated as L.

However, mutations do not stop with the formation of a new haplogroup.  They continue through the generations.  As lineages divide between different sons, across many generations, so these mutations in the Y-DNA for example, continue to accumulate down the diverging lineages that once shared common descent.  We are all unique.  The sub clade of L that this page focuses on is L1b.  All male carriers of L1b will carry a SNP (Single Nucleotide Polymorphism) on their Y-DNA that has been designated as M317. This SNP will be downstream of another SNP that has been designated as M22.  Finally, a Y-DNA can be said to have a terminal SNP.  A terminal, refers not to the Haplogroup (in this case L), but can be used to define right down to the last SNP on the Y-DNA, that is shared with others on a record.  If someone for example, carries Y-DNA that is proven (or predicted by comparison) to be Y Haplogroup L, and to carry M317, then their Y terminal could be designated as L-M317, or alternatively, as L1b.  This is also sometimes referred to as a haplotype.  However, a haplotype can also refer to a particular STR.

Y Haplogroup L M20

The above image illustrates a modern day distribution of Y Haplogroup L (M20) as proposed and created by Anthropogenica user Passa.

Y Haplogroup K formed from Y Haplogroup IJK in the Y-DNA of hunter-gatherer fathers and sons, that share a MRCA (most recent common ancestor) during the Upper Palaeolithic, circa 45,400 years ago.  Where did these Y ancestors live at that time?  We think that they lived in Western or Southern Asia.  Iran is a favourite proposal. Earlier Y ancestors had most likely exited Africa 20,000 years earlier, and were well established in Asia.  They had most likely met and confronted another archaic human species, The Neanderthal. This was however, a time of great expansion by humans.  The first anatomically modern humans had recently entered Europe, while other modern humans were arriving in Australia.  The Ice Age was in a flux, but glaciation was advancing.

The most recent common Y ancestor to carry Y Haplogroup LT lived circa 42,600 years ago.  Then a mutation in the Y-DNA lead to the formation of Y Haplogroup L, with a most recent common ancestor 23,200 years ago, close to the time of the Last Glacial Maximum, when ice sheets were reaching their maximum positions.  K, LT, and early L, most likely all originated in Upper Palaeolithic hunter-gatherer populations living during the last Ice Age, in the area of modern day Syria, Iraq, Iran or Pakistan.  It was a time of increased stress on human populations, that were having to adapt to some severe environmental challenges, and may have at times faced isolation into a number of Ice Age Refuges.  Some of these Upper Palaeolithic, Ice Age hunter-gatherer refuges may have been close to the Black Sea, others close to the Caspian Sea, but they were most likely located somewhere between Eastern Anatolia, and Eastern Iran, south of the Caucasus.

L1 / L2 Divergence - the Odd L2's

The oldest divergence within Y Haplogroup L.  L1, as characterised by the SNP M22, diverged from L2, as characterised by the SNP L595.  L2 was only recently discovered, and forced an ISOGG revision of Y Haplogroup L and it's nomenclature that is still causing problems.  In this article, unless stated otherwise, I am using 2017 Nomenclature.  L2 or L-L595 is very rare, but has so far cropped up sporadically across Western Eurasia, including in Azeribaijan, Turkey, Sardinia, England, and Tartaristan.

That is L2 dealt with.  However, most Y Haplogroup L falls into L1. Let us start to look at the main branches of L1.  Remember, L1 is defined by the SNP M22:

Unofficial proposed tree for L1 (L-M22) 2016.  By Gökhan Zuzigo, modified by Paul Brooker.

Proposed Migration Map of L-M22 (L1) by Phylogeographer at https://phylographer.com/mygrations/?

The Big L1 Split - L1a and L1b

As can be seen above, this split occurred around 18,400 years ago, possibly somewhere between what is now Iran and Pakistan.  The L1a branches inherit the SNP M2481, and the L1b branches inherited M317.

First of all, let's look at L1a, because although it is not my sub clade, in terms of modern day population size, it appears to greatly outnumber any other L sub clade.

Pakistan and India - Present Day Home of L1a1 and L1a2

L1a splits again into two sub clades.  The split occurred around 17,400 years ago.  L1a1 (L-M27) and L1a2 (L-M357)

L1a1 (L-M27)

Defined by SNP M27 (on older nomenclature as still used by 23andMe, this was formerly L1*) is mainly found in India, particularly South West India, and in Sri Lanka. This is perhaps the most populous modern day L sub clade, found in 15% of Indian males.  However, it is not restricted to India, and has also been found in 20% of Balochi in Pakistan, and has also been reported in Kirghiz, Pashtun, Tajik, Uzbek, and Turkmen males across Central Asia.

L1a and L1a1 (L-M27) at Birds Eye Cave, Armenia 6161 years before present.

Ancient Y DNA from the Copper Age has emerged from this location in Armenia, and included L1a, and L1a1.  This might suggest, that although very successful today in India and Pakistan, that it has a Western Asian origin.

L1a2 (L-M357)

Has defined by SNP M357 (on older nomenclature as still used by 23andMe, this was formerly L3*).  This sub clade is mainly found in Pakistan, but also Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, The Chechen Republic, Tajikistan, India, and Afghanistan.  It has been found at 15% in Burusho populations, and at 25% in Kalash populations.  It is much more common in Pakistan than in India.

So, the L1a sub clades - spreading down into Southern Asia, and accounting for potentially millions of Y Men there.  Far more than any other branches of Y Haplogroup L.  However, Southern Asia is unlikely to be the origin of L.  That origin is more likely, as stated earlier, to be the place with the most diversity in branches.  That points more towards again towards Western Asia.  It's just that ancient carriers of L, appear to have been particularly successful in Southern Asia, and to have fathered more sons there.

L-M317 or L1b of Western Asia

We now move onto the branches of particular interest to myself, because I carry a Y Haplotype that belongs here.  L1b is defined by the SNP M317, that formed circa 18,400 years ago, most likely in the area of modern day Iran, or elsewhere in Western Asia.

Phylogenetic tree of L1b by Anthrogenica user Caspian (with permission):

Click on above hyperlink for full sized image

L1b is mainly distributed across Western Asia, from modern day Turkey, across to Pakistan.  However, as we will see, it also spreads in low densities across parts of Europe.  it is very much, the "Western L".

The Next split - L1b1 or L-M349.  The Levant, and Europe!

Around 14,000 years ago, another split occurred in the L1b (M317) branch. A new SNP, M349, defined L1b1.  Today, L1b1, or L-M349, is found in Western Asia, in Lebanon, Syria, Turkey, Armenia, etc.  However, it is also found scattered in low densities through parts of Europe.  It crops up in South Europe, often close the the Mediterranean Sea, including particularly in parts of Italy.  It also forms a light cluster in Central Europe.

A working map of Y haplogroup L sub clades by Edward Chernoff.  This map is incomplete, but is published here with permission of Edward Chernoff.  Copyrights applied.

Branching away from a common Y ancestor with L1b1 (M349), is another 14,000 year old line defined by SNP SK1412, L1b2.

L1b2 (L-SK1412) splits - Pontic Greeks, and the others...

13,000 years ago,, during a cold stage towards the end of the last Ice Age, the L1b2 (SK1412) Y branch divides again.  Very recent research suggests that it split into three lines: L-SK1415 (L1b2a), L-PH8 (L1b2b), and L-SK1414 (L1b2c).

L1b2a (L-SK1415), has as far as I know, only been detected in a Makrani Balochi survey in SW Pakistan.

L1b2b (PH8), is found in Turkey, Greece, Armenia, Chechen Republic, Iraq, etc.  It is associated particularly with the Pontic Greek ethnicity from Eastern Anatolia, and around the Black Sea.  A further division within PH8 has been detected at around 3,000 years ago.

Finally ... mine:

L1b2c (L-SK1414, FGC51074), has so far been SNP detected only in Makrani Balochi, in SW Pakistan, Gujarat, India, Turkey, Cyprus, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon (Druze), and in England. STR predictions for L-SK1414 have also been found in Goa, Syria, Iraq, Kuwait, UAE, Tartaristan, France, Italy, Iran, and Azores.  In addition to SK1414, I have with the assistance of Gareth Henson, a FT-DNA Big Y test, accompanied by further analysis of their raw data, by Yfull, and FullGenomes, ascertained 117 novel SNPs looking for first time matches.  As can be imagined, I'm very keen that further L Y-Men should test.

Distribution may be connected to the dispersal of the recently identified group known as the Iranian Neolithic Farmers after 10,000 BCE:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5113750/#:~:text=We%20sequenced%20Early%20Neolithic%20genomes,significantly%20to%20the%20ancestry%20of

In addition there would appear to be a potential link between this group, and the inhabitants of the Harappan or Indus Valley civilization. Below is my proposed distribution of L SK1414 / FGC51074:

Those tentative European Y haplogroup L links

We have seen above, that again, and again, Y haplogroup L (M20), and several of it's sub clades appear to have Western Asian origins, despite success of some of those sub clades today in India and Pakistan.  Y haplogroup L has not been linked to the Yamna hypothesis, that has taken credit for the origin of many haplogroups that are successful today in Europe.  Y-DNA L was located to the southern side of the Caucasus, between present day Turkey and Pakistan.  However, two particular Y-DNA L sub clades do make mysterious appearances across Europe.

1) L-L595 (L2) has only recently been discovered, so far, exclusively across Europe, in very low numbers.

2) L-M349 (L1b1), downstream of M317, also spreads across South Europe, and clusters at the Rhine-Danube.  I have on 23andMe forums, seen a number of testers that unfortunately have not tested their Y elsewhere, claim Ashkenazi paternal ancestry, but this is far from common to all European L-M349 samples. Although rarely forming much more than 1% of all Y along the Mediterranean coast of Southern Europe, this percentage does occasionally rise higher, for example, in parts of Italy.

When did L2 or even L1b1 enter Europe?  L2 has only so far been found in Europe.  There are some suggestions that some European L could be survivors from the Eurasian Neolithic.  However, ancient DNA has not yet been found to support this hypothesis. 

Prime resources

L Yfull Tree

https://www.yfull.com/tree/L/

Wikimedia entry for Y Haplogroup L-M20

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_L-M20

FTDNA L The Y Haplogroup L Project

https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Y-Haplogroup-L/

Marco Cagetti's Y Haplogroup L

http://www.cagetti.com/Genetics/L-haplogroup.html

Anthropogenica Y Haplogroup L Forum Board

http://www.anthrogenica.com/forumdisplay.php?37-L

ISOGG 2009 Y Haplogroup L (Useful for understanding 23andMe Y haplogroup result of L2*)

http://isogg.org/tree/2009/ISOGG_HapgrpL09.html

ISOGG 2017 Y Haplogroup L

http://isogg.org/tree/ISOGG_HapgrpL.html

Other resources

Europedia Y-DNA Haplogroup L

http://www.eupedia.com/europe/origins_haplogroups_europe.shtml#L

23andMe users should note that the company in 2016, still used a very outdated ISOGG nomenclature system.  My 23andMe reported haplotype was L2*.  However, using ISOGG 2016, this is now L1b (L-M317).  NOT to be confused with modern day L2 (L-L595).

Facebook Y Haplogroup L Group

https://www.facebook.com/groups/773887796013634/

L-M317 STR Alpine cluster article

https://figshare.com/articles/L_M317_STR_marker_likelihood_tree_focuing_Alpine_cluster/105684

Familypedia Wiki for Haplogroup L

http://familypedia.wikia.com/wiki/Haplogroup_L_(Y-DNA)

For personal note  as of 2018-08-28.

My Y Haplogroup L Designation:

L +M20 +M22 +M317 +SK1412 +SK1414 (or FGC51074) +FGC51041 (or Y31947) +FGC51036

L-SK1414 = L1b2c

SK1414/FGC51074 age estimate current 9,300 years bp.

L-FGC51041 is a verified terminal

FGC51041/Y31947 age estimate current 6,000 years ago but only 2 samples on Ytree.

L-FGC51036 on terminal on FT-DNA

L-Y31947 is terminal on yFull

115 novel SNPs

The Other SK1414. My Cousin in Baluchistan

By Baluchistan on Flickr under a Creative Commons Licence. No, this young man is not the SK1414 tester, but the mandolinist in me found this photo kind of cool.  A young man from Makran.  The other SK1414 tester was also a male Makrani Baloch.

I'm hot on the trail of my Y or paternal line, following my FTDNA Y111 STR, then Big Y tests.  These tests analysed the DNA on my Y chromosome.  It is passed down strictly from father to biological sons.  the mutations (SNP and STR) that can be identified in the Y-DNA, can be used to assess relationship, and in some cases, to date the time of most recent common ancestry.  So, with the assistance of Gareth Henson, administrator of the FT-DNA Y haplogroup L Project, and with help from my new distant cousins, what have I learned over the past few weeks?

The Smoking Gun of Y-DNA

Between 45,000 and 13,000 years ago, my paternal ancestors most likely were hunter-gatherers, that lived in the region of what is now Iran and Iraq, during the last Ice Age.  Some sharp changes in glaciation, and cold extremes towards the end of that period, may have generated a number of adaptations, and subsequently, split new sub clades of my Y haplogroup L.

13,000 years ago (based on the Big Y test), I share a common paternal great x grandfather with a number of distant cousins, that descend from Pontic Greek families from the Trabzon region in Turkey.

Between 3,000 and 1,000 years ago (based on the less accurate STR evidence at 111 marker), I share common paternal great x grandfather with another cousin, who's paternal line Habibi, can be traced back to the 1850's in the town of Birjand, Southern Khorasan, Eastern Iran, close to the modern Afghanistan border.  This closer cousin now lives in Australia.

Human male karyotpe high resolution - Y chromosome

My Big Y test produced no less than 90 previously unrecorded or known SNP (pronounced "snip") mutations.  That might be because my Y-DNA is rare, or / and, that it is mainly found in parts of the World where very few people test at this level.  The last SNP on the roll that had been seen before, has been called SK1414.  Because now two of us have tested for this SNP, it is my terminal SNP, so at the moment (although it still has to be submitted to the YFull Tree), I can declare my Y haplogroup sub clade designation to be L-SK1414.  Only one of two so far recorded in the World.

So, who is this Y cousin that shares my SK1414 mutation?

My Baluchistan Cousin

By Baluchistan on Flickr under a Creative Commons Licence.  Another photo from Makran, Balochistan.

The other SK1414 turned up during an early survey, back in the early 2000s by the Human Genome Diversity Project.  It turned up in a sample of the Baluchi in Makran, South-west Pakistan.  Could this cousin be closer than the Habibi tester?  Could my Habibi cousin, from an eastern Iranian family also carry SK1414?

The Baluch, are an Iranic people, that speak Baluchi, an Iranian language that belongs, as do most European languages, to the Indo-European linguistic family.  According to the Iran Chamber Society website, they moved to Makran during the 12th Century AD.  Traditionally the Baluch claim that they originated in Syria, but a linguistic study has instead suggested that they actully originated from the south east of the Caspian region, and that they moved westwards between the 6th and 12th centuries AD in a series of waves.  No other Y sub clade L1b (L-M317) have been found in Southern Asia outside of two samples of this survey, so perhaps the tester did have ancestry from Western Asia.

Iran regions map fr

It would seem likely that I do have a number of Y cousins, most likely in the region of Eastern Iran and South-Western Pakistan.  That doesn't necessarily follow though, that our most recent common Y ancestors lived there.  As I said above, the Baluch of Makrani, Pakistan are said to have migrated from further north-west, from the Caspian Sea region.

There is a tentative suggestion of a link to the Parsi. A Portuguese STR tester with a genetic distance (based on 67 markers) of 22, has (thanks again Gareth) "a distinctive value of 10 at DYS393. In the Qamar paper this value is found in the Parsi population".  So there is just the possibility also, of the Parsi ethnicity carrying L1b from Western Asia into Southern Asia.  Perhaps this marker was picked up by a Portuguese seafarer link to Southern Asia.  It could even be the link to my English line, via the Anglo-Portuguese Alliance.  A lot of speculation.  I don't think that M317 has been found yet in India.

Into England

I have found STR links with four people that carry the surname Chandler.  They live in England, Australia, and the USA.  These cousins appear to descend from a Thomas Chandler, that lived in Basingstoke during the 1740s.  That is 32 miles away from my own contemporary surname ancestor, John Brooker, who lived at the same time at the village of Long Wittenham in the Thames Valley.

Unfortunately three of the Chandlers have only 12 markers tested, and the fourth at 37 markers.  Therefore time of most recent ancestor is not accurate, but it looks as the Chandler and Brooker Y hg L testers of Southern England, most likely shared a common paternal great x grandfather sometime between 800 and 350 years ago.

That only these two lines have turned up, and that they are geographically and genetically so close, might suggest that our Y-DNA lineage arrived in Southern England around the late medieval, perhaps from between the 13th and 17th centuries AD.  It could just be through a Portuguese navigator link, or it could be through thousands of other routes.  More L-M20 testers could turn up in England in the future, that could push the arrival to an earlier date.

Today

I could have any number of cousins from south England.  The Brookers and Chandlers may well have other paternal line descendants living in the Thames Valley, Hampshire, London, or elsewhere.  I'd love to prove a Brooker from the Berkshire / Oxfordshire area, as sharing ancestry.  I believe for example, that the journalist Charlie Brooker descends from one of the Thames Valley families, although not necessarily from mine.  Do they carry the Y hg L?

My great great grandfather Henry Brooker, did not appear to have any more sons, other than my great grandfather John Henry Brooker - who in turn, only had one son, my grandfather Reginald John Brooker.

I have one Y haplogroup first cousin.  He has I believe, a son, and a grandson.